Fighting with myself
05.03.08 (8:22 am) [edit]
I know sometimes I get involved in conversations [blogs] that hit close to home and feel I must stand up and be recognized but I usually end up sticking my big foot in my mouth. Some of you may know from my visits that I'm not a great debater, not even a good debater (I know there's a joke here but I'm actually going to let it slip right on by) So when people debate things that I feel deeply in (religion, politics and family, you know core stuff) I usually don't get to involved because I know if I get frustrated I'll just end up saying, "oh yea, oh yea, well F you!"
Growing up I didn’t have the ability to express my true feelings on subjects that where either close to my heart or just plain bothered me. As a young boy I stayed pretty neutral on things because I didn’t want to ruffle any feathers. I was that kind of kid that wanted to please everybody yet deep down inside I wanted answers to questions.
Every so often being the good kid I acted out around my brothers just so I would be punished, but those were far and few between. My siblings were always being told, “Wait till your father gets home” and my dad would punish them for their [crimes]. When it was my turn to go and get his belt I was both afraid and some what excited that I was breaking the good boy title I had desperately and carefully built.
Now as an adult I work so very hard at having a bad boy image at work while still trying hard to be the overachiever and being recognized for doing a great job. Is this what we [guys] do, or are we just nuts to even care what others think?
There’s a blogger here on tBlog that I call a friend and we have different points of view on both politics and religion but he’s still a friend. I don’t have the need or desire to try and convert him to my way of thinking. Why should I?
He always closes with, “Be good to everyone.” And I would like to modify it and say, ‘Be good to family and friends” because they’re the ones that’s going to be changing my man diapers when my mind slips away.
Thanks for listening.
posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (10:00 am)
Well, I have not made a careful study of your thoughtful comments, but I'd say you generally do a good job of expressing yourself. And you also do a good job of being silly when that is your intent. So, you make a good blogger. I'm glad you moved into the neighborhood. (As long as you don't live next door.)
Now, what was that joke about debating? Great Debater.... Tremendous Debater..... Master at Interacting..... Oh well.
posted by: fractalmom (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (10:22 am)
i totally am with you there. lol. usually when i jump in to get my feet wet, there is a deluge of thought an opinion that i cannot keep up with. and i too like surrogate.
posted by: OldSchool (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (11:28 am)
You hold your own, Ken.
I agree with you about trying to change other people's views. To each their own, I always tell myself.
I also have adopted a stance of really not caring what others think about me unless they are those that I truly care about. All things being equal, sure I want people to like me and, more importantly, respect me. But, I would not compromise who I am or who I love in order to achieve that.
And Surrogate is okay with me too, no matter what anybody else says about him.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (12:02 pm)
Reply to: PastorDave
Not next door, huh? Am I not squirrelly enough for your squirrelly club?
I went to college and took all of the self help courses to become an debater of value. I ended my pursuit when I fell a couple of credits from becoming a master-bater.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (12:04 pm)
Reply to: fractalmom
I likes Surrogate and he's okay. I works all day and sleep all night.
Ohhhhhhhh
I likes Surrogate and he's okay..........
It's easy for me to get flustered when the words don't come as easily as I would want them too.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (12:06 pm)
Reply to: OldSchool
I try to and sometimes I forget that it's best when humans act humanly. Thanks for the encouraging words.
posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (12:57 pm)
O.K. I see a mandatory statement is in order. Here goes.... Uhhhhh.... I can do this. The words are not difficult. I..... Now, let's take a deep breath. I like surrogate.
posted by: userfriendly (reply)
post date: 05.03.08 (8:12 pm)
surrogate's the man. i find myself agreeing with him even on things we dont agree about, in weird ways.
religion, politics.. you can't really let the debates get too serious, because no 2 people agree 100%.. ever.
posted by: fractalmom (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (6:06 am)
Reply to: squirrelzone
as long as Surr doesn't start "dress in women's clothing, and hang around in bars....."
::::merrily singing away:::::::
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (7:56 am)
Reply to: fractalmom
Actually I'd like to meet that Surrogate. Tell me who doesn't like to get all purdied up on a Saturday night and flaunt their stuff.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (7:59 am)
Reply to: userfriendly
Well, okay. But what about my man diapers.
posted by: PirateGirl (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (9:19 am)
Bad boys - bad boys, whatchagonnado, whatchagonnado,whentheycomeforyou?...Bad boys - bad boys, whatchagonnado.....
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (10:41 am)
Reply to: PirateGirl
aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha
~ OMGoodness PG ~ Perfect!
*now you boys try to behave yourselves
~ do we have to have a golfcart race again, hmmmm?
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (10:46 am)
Reply to: PirateGirl
I'm not bad, just a little naughty ;)
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (10:46 am)
Reply to: auntconi
Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, Race, race!
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (1:06 pm)
Reply to: squirrelzone
are you saying you are a bit 'racy' ~ hmmm?
I did notice earlier you said you were a master ... or something like that!
:)
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (3:08 pm)
Reply to: auntconi
HAHAHAHA! Now that's racy ;)
posted by: barnabus1 (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (3:37 pm)
I really like surrogate...even though he's an asshole! Assholes are important too!!! Life would be tough without them! hehe Every once in a while I get into a debate with him...knowing I'm not going to change him, and he's not going to change me, so there will never be a winner in our debates!!
He gets to keep his opinions...but I get to keep mine!!
posted by: OldSchool (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (3:40 pm)
No comment from Surr himself yet? I am sure it is coming!
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (3:41 pm)
Reply to: barnabus1
Amen brother Barnabus, amen.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (3:42 pm)
Reply to: OldSchool
I do believe he's returning home from a road trip......
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (4:27 pm)
Reply to: squirrelzone
ummm ~ :)
*grinssss
posted by: sebastianjoshua (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (6:09 pm)
hey... feel free and be free :-)
i dont agrue and i dont fight but i always tell what i want to tell... no matter what
smile always :-)
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:07 pm)
Reply to: sebastianjoshua
That's a good way to live life sebastianjoshua, thanks for reminding me.
posted by: emerging (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:21 pm)
Reply to: PastorDave
Wow, are you okay after that one? Do you need to lie down - perhaps with a damp cloth on your forehead? ;)
posted by: emerging (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:24 pm)
Reply to: squirrelzone
What's this about Surr in high heels? I haven't witnessed that one yet, but I hear tell he stepped foot in a church last weekend - and a Baptist one at that. He didn't even spontaneously combust!
posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:26 pm)
Umm.... ouch? or thanks? or what?
posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:26 pm)
Reply to: emerging
We all need sleep.
posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:27 pm)
Reply to: emerging
(and by the way, you have sharp elbows.)
posted by: emerging (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:28 pm)
Reply to: surrogate
Hey, if that's what it takes to get you to clean up, I'll take what I can get :P
posted by: TashaRules (reply)
post date: 05.04.08 (8:57 pm)
Very well put together i have some similarities too, but generally i stay to the good things and try to work up the best image i can get.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (5:49 am)
Reply to: emerging
spontaneously combust!? Well I'll be dipped in....
It's amazing what a man will do for a woman or visa versa.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (5:52 am)
Reply to: surrogate
Umm.... ouch? or thanks? or what?....it wasn't supposed be to a three punch combo. A pat on the back for reminding me it's okay to have differences.
(We should now break into the lumberjack song)
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (5:53 am)
Reply to: TashaRules
The best is all we can hope to do. Thanks TashaRules.
posted by: PastorDave (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (7:16 am)
Reply to: emerging
You know, after getting those words out, I feel a hundred pounds lighter. It was not easy, felt almost like one of the exorcism sessions in the Mike Taibbi article. But hey, surrogate is a nice....... he is a nice..... Well, you know what I mean.
posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (1:27 pm)
Reply to: PastorDave
And yet you dodged MY Tiabbi article... Darest I say? Wussssss... (heh heh)
Yeah, I like you too.
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (2:33 pm)
Whew ~ glad that is settled!
:)
:)
:)
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (2:34 pm)
Reply to: auntconi
Me too girl.
Me too :D
posted by: kgurl1166 (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (2:46 pm)
i think you should voice your opinion. it's easy to get caught up in pleasing everyone but its extremely hard to break the habit. i am sure you know since you acted out only a few times... dont worry abt being a pleaser.. do you ..
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (2:55 pm)
Reply to: kgurl1166
I'll stand up for what I believe in if it's something I've posted and sometimes I'll get into a friendly debate on someone else's post. But, I try not to get out of hand when it's someone else's post because it's their post and they have every right to voice their own opinion or agenda just like I do with my post/blog.
Pleasing is what I do :D especially with family and friends.
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (3:34 pm)
Reply to: squirrelzone
(((hugs))) We gots the bestest bunch a peeps anywhere, right heeyaar!
;)
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (3:48 pm)
Reply to: auntconi
Durn right! The bestest peeps in the world.
posted by: lostin2007 (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (8:00 pm)
surrogate is nice guy. lol your comments are cracking me up.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.05.08 (9:53 pm)
Reply to: lostin2007
Hi lostin, there's are a lot of contributors to this and each one is a spoon full of joy ;)
posted by: PirateGirl (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (8:42 am)
Reply to: auntconi
LOL!
posted by: PirateGirl (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (8:47 am)
Reply to: squirrelzone
OOOOOOOOOOO!
Hey - I swear that squirrel just winked at me!
You all better behave now!
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (8:48 am)
Reply to: PirateGirl
"LOL" ~ you got it!
posted by: PirateGirl (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (8:52 am)
Reply to: auntconi
Hee-hee! - Ok, behave, but not tooo much ;D
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (11:26 am)
Reply to: PirateGirl
ooooooooooOOOOOOOO ~ he did ~ he winked at me too!
squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ~ that's one sexy squirrel ~ oh,
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.run, here he comes......
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (12:20 pm)
Reply to: auntconi
Where's that sexy squirrel go? What'd I miss?
;)
posted by: auntconi (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (12:59 pm)
Reply to: squirrelzone
;)
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posted by: PirateGirl (reply)
post date: 05.06.08 (7:32 pm)
Reply to: auntconi
RUN FER YER lIVES!!!!!!!!!!
*ROFLOL!
posted by: PooPotPie (reply)
post date: 05.07.08 (9:41 am)
I know I haven't been blogging very long but you really made me think alot about what you wrote. I consider myself not to really care about what people think of me or my opinions. Some have even told me that my debates and points of view are abrasive but in the end I feel the same way you do. I keep my family and friends very close to me. I have a situation with someone (which I will blog about on my next entry) and it leave me a little puzzled as how to handle it. Since this person is considered family I have to decide whether I should stick to my guns or move on. You post just me realize that although I think I have a valid point, family and friends are very important. Thanks for challenging me! :)
posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 05.07.08 (4:08 pm)
I always wanted to leave the 54th comment on a post. Now I have.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.07.08 (5:24 pm)
Wow, I didn't realise that there were so many random comments on this last post.
Aren't achieving goals wonderful?
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.07.08 (5:26 pm)
Reply to: PooPotPie
I'm glad I was able to get the ole brain juices flowing. Normally my posts stops the brain cells all together :)
posted by: OldSchool (reply)
post date: 05.08.08 (6:08 am)
Wow, I am pretty impressed with the number of comments you received on this topic. You must have struck a nerve.
Have a good one.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.08.08 (6:12 am)
Reply to: OldSchool
There are a lot more then I normally get which is pretty cool.
posted by: thinker01 (reply)
post date: 05.09.08 (6:29 pm)
I'm like you when you're a kid. I don't know if it's a choice or it's just me. I never had the chance to really speak my mind and argue with people who thinks differently from me. This sometime troubles me because I can't speak out. I'm not brave enough to tell them how I really feel specially if I know that it will give them a bad reaction. I normally keep things in my mind and let them talk. If they ask me, I just say "I think so..or I don't know". But the truth is, I have my opinion inside my mind.
I don't argue because I don't want a conflict or a fight. This is not healthy, I know. But, this is me.
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 05.09.08 (9:03 pm)
Reply to: thinker01
Hi Thinker, my voice came in time. At first I developed a forked toungue until I realized that communication works both ways and each party will get more out of it when you use a civil tongue.